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Who exactly is England's most successful club?

May 5, 2017

Manchester United? Liverpool? Arsenal? Who exactly is England’s most successful ever club?

 

Until recently, Liverpool FC claimed in their Twitter bio that they were England’s most successful club with 41 major honours. The removal of this seemed to coincide with Manchester United’s EFL Cup win, although is just using ‘major honours’ the best way to work out England’s most prolific club?

 

From my understanding, a ‘major honour’ from Liverpool’s perspective didn’t include Super Cups, Community Shields or Club World Championships but did include UEFA Cups and League Cups. Now that opens up a can of worms – How does a League Cup qualify as a major honour but being the Club World champions doesn’t? At the end of the day, a trophy is a trophy, whether that’s a Community Shield or a Champions League, although the prestige varies they are both competitive competitions with a trophy up for grabs.

 

I’ve been thinking about the best way to work out England’s most successful ever club and I’ve come up with a points system.

 

The Points System

 

Champions League – 15 points

League Champions – 10 points

FA Cup – 7 points

Europa League/Cup Winner’s Cup/Fairs Cup – 7 points

Club World Championship/Intercontinental Cup – 5 points

League Cup – 4 points

European Super Cup – 3 points

Community Shield – 1 point

 

A fair points system which takes into account the importance of the trophy but crucially doesn’t exclude any trophies other than lower division titles and youth level honours. Using this method, who is England’s most successful ever club?

 

Manchester United – 397 points

 

3x Champions League – 45 points

20x League Champions – 200 points

12x FA Cup – 84 points

1x Cup Winner’s Cup – 7 points

1x Club World Championship – 5 points

1x Intercontinental Cup – 5 points

5x League Cup – 20 points

1x European Super Cup – 3 points

21x Community Shield – 21 points

1x Europa League - 7 points

 

 

 

 

Liverpool – 377 points

 

5x Champions League – 75 points

18x League Champions – 180 points

7x FA Cup – 49 points

3x Europa League – 21 points

8x League Cup – 32 points

3x European Super Cup – 9 points

15x Community Shield – 15 points

 

 

 

Arsenal – 257 points

 

13x League Champions – 130 points

13x FA Cup – 91 points

1x UEFA Fairs Cup – 7 points

1x Cup Winner’s Cup – 7 points

2x League Cup – 8 points

14x Community Shield – 14 points

 

 

 

Chelsea – 172 points

 

1x Champions League – 15 points

6x League Champions – 60 points

7x FA Cup – 49 points

2x Cup Winner’s Cup – 14 points

1x Europa League – 7 points

5x League Cup – 20 points

1x European Super Cup – 3 points

4x Community Shield – 4 points

 

 

 

 

Aston Villa – 158 points

 

1x Champions League – 15 points

7x League Champions – 70 points

7x FA Cup – 49 points

5x League Cup – 20 points

1x European Super Cup – 3 points

1x Community Shield – 1 point

 

 

 

A huge gap of 120 points separates Liverpool and Arsenal meaning that nobody will come close to Liverpool or United for a long time.

 

Manchester City and Tottenham are the notable absentees from the top 5 who should both be climbing up there over the next decade or so. Manchester City and Tottenham have 102 and 120 points respectively.

 

So that’s that, congratulations to Manchester United, who are officially England’s most successful ever club (using my method).

 

If you have a different opinion on the most successful club in England, tweet me @zefutbolwriter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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